in this particular party matter when at the white house, for example, advising on whether to fire the fbi director james comey that would be a separate violation of the same statute, which provides for a lifetime ban on ever representing back to the government on the same particular party matter that you participated in personally and substantially. put that all on top of obstruction of justice, what this is all about and i don't think he ought to be getting anywhere near>> it bottom line is, all of this should be known to the people who advise the president on ethics, but as we've known since the beginning, it's not the most robust part of the white house operation. >> i don't think anybody's advising the president on ethics. at least from what i've heard. they had somebody who said he was ath ethics lawyer fire off the letter to the government of ethics saying the oeg rules don't apply to the white house staff are and they've had a lot of problems over there. they've got to understand that for a senior person to leave the