they're feeding to the press. what they found themselves with was all these stolen documents a felony under state law and a crime under the federal statute. roger stone farmed it out and everybody else jumped on it. kushner, don junior and the president and they made a complete positive deniable so they wouldn't be stuck with the stolen documents. >> the last thing i'll say, and let me go back to you malcolm, is the idea of so much deception and deceit and forgetting about the contacts. the thing that sticks out to me the most is saying they forgot about the me mails. russian government says they're trying to help your bad. no one says anything until it becomes obvious to the public and you send the candidate out