everything else, it's just a function in which the way the lines were drawn in 2011. >> so i knee in this project you're working on ballot initiatives in some places where they're going to do nonpartisan redirecting. you' -- redistricting. you're working on litigation strategy, you're also working on supporting individual democratic candidates in state legislatures whose election would be key in terms of what control of redistricting would look like right there. that's a comprehensive tragedy that makes this sort of make or break this as a strategy. what i don't get is why this effort is going to succeed. i feel like i've heard so much democratic hot air on we've got to work on the states, we've got to work on redistricting. i feel like there's been so many projects launched that were going to do this that never really seemed to, why is yours going to have traction? >> i think ours is organized, first off, it is also the only thing that is within the democratic party that has sole