there? >> no, we would still travel, but you will recall in 2016 president balm did do a little travel. the idea of going to red states to talk about his vision for the country. we did a town hall meeting in baton rouge, louisiana. it didn't have the desired effect. >> you were in the administration where the last state of the union had some legs the day after. >> there was a state of the union plan that included a slight rollout before, teasers, then the speech, and then it would be a cadence every week for four weeks. and then you would kind of build it, you would have hearings on capitol hill around the tax