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director of public affairs for democracy forward. also david jolly, former republican congressman from florida and jose barro with us in new york a senior editor for business insider and contributor. garrett haake, you are at the scene of the action in the thick of it. what's the situation now? >> well, lawrence, rand paul has just been back up on the floor making one more speech. essentially calling out his own party for democrats. there's some i think delight among some democrats in hearing rand paul make the argument that conservatives can't only be conservative on spending and on the budget when they're in the minority and ignore these same things when they're in the majority. there's also a sense of deep frustration going on from both parties a, that they're even standing here at this late hour and not having voted this over to the house and made it their problem from republicans who would like to be able to take credit for having done some form of governing in the striking of

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