those in new york and their advanced degrees don't need steel to make a living. >> how many people talking in the last hour made any money with their hands? i'm sorry. >> i don't want to get into it. it's a long story. >> we should get into it because i think it's the point of view that comes from the gritty people out there in pennsylvania who are probably cheering this on. by the way, what do you think casey is for this or sherrod brown? they're smart politicians who want to get re-elected. >> speaking of sophisticates who have never done any work with their hands, it's sort of like that scene in trading places where she looks at dan aykroyd's hands and says you've never done an honest day of work in your life. we bring in sophisticate from boston, professor of international politics at the fletcher school of law. >> he's not liking this. >> the man to which george wallace came up with the term -- pointy-headed bureaucrat -- we give you boston red sox fan,