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necessary. but, you know, we also saw they're paying -- they're trying to extract $20 million from stormy for a breach of a contract, so if they were trying to downplay the story and get rid of it, they're kind of doing the opposite. >> kimberly, quickly, those critical of what might be happening with stormy daniels and the president, he's staying away that third rail potentially here, he does not want to allude to what those are saying there could be a cover-up. >> well, that's the biggest problem here, the idea that he is trying to cover people up. that this is an m.o., his m.o., essentially, trying to keep them quiet through threats of lawsuits and ndas. but, look, predicting what the president will do, we never know. i mean, we could get a tweet tonight after this story airs. he's clearly concerned about it, has talked to folks within his inner circle worrying about how it's hurting him himly. so i don't think the silence will last forever. >> all-star panel. thank you. kevin, natasha, as well as kimberly atkins. have a great sunday. >> richard, you, too. we'll turn to yesterday's march for our lives right after the break.

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