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why is that it? is it the uphill fight we're talking about here? >> it is. i think that we have to always -- >> is it recruitment? where does it come from? >> i think that it's a little bit of both. i mean, when we look at the history of this country, the discrimination that happens on the basis of race, as well as gender, black women have to contend with both. of course, money is a factor in politics. it does take a great deal of money. a lot of times, it's hard to get in the networks where the large cash flows are. >> when you look at today, when you look at the 50th commemoration of the death of dr. martin luther king jr., can you talk about personally how his legacy has affected your work and, specifically, your political future? >> yes. dr. king has been a major influence in my life. just understanding how you invigorate the people and bring the people together, to change big systems. what dr. king did, this was before social media and the things we take for granted now, and he was able to make big differences and change the

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