administration that feel that china maybe came out on top. you mentioned navarro. i know he and ambassador lighthouser, two of the hard-liners within the administration, are keen to keep reminding the president that talks with china have not worked in the past. that's something that administration officials, when they announced these tariffs several weeks ago, they were very quick to say, look, we've been talking to china for decades, and talk is cheap here. so that is something that you have several members of the administration that are continuing to tug at the president's pant leg to actually tell him about it. secretary mnuchin did say on cnbc this morning he expects energy expert ports to china ton the neighborhood of $40 billion. so he would put a couple of numbers on the table as far as what he expected. but because you don't know exactly what china will end up buying or how this deal would potentially pan out, i think the administration is reticent to
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