to what julia just mentioned, though, the people who go to work every day, how does any of this affect what you know about the mueller people and the mueller investigation? >> well, the investigation, brian, is to protect our country. it's not to go after any one person in any political party. it's really to protect against russian intrusion in our democratic process. and notwithstanding whether the russian aggression in this particular campaign favored a republican or undermined a democrat, it undermined our democracy and undermined democracy itself. and so i think the way the professionals at doj and frankly throughout our national security establishment view this is that they view themselves on the front lines of protecting our country. they're not looking at this through the political lens of who it favors or who it hurts in our political system. they want to protect our country. >> ashley, is this a strategy or a shiny object or that rare animal that is both? >> i think it can be both. i think at the end of the day, this all, for president trump and his legal team -- and by
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