>> senator, the policies are themselves statements as well. indeed, they're the most important statements that the administration makes. >> well, policies are statements and statements are policies, it goes both ways. >> that's not true. i make lots of statements, they're not u.s. policy. the president says things, the president makes comments in certain places. we have national security council, we meet, we layout strategies, we develop policies, right. >> so how do i know the difference? >> the president set the course. >> how do i know the difference between a presidential statement that's not a policy and a statement that is? >> senator, here is what you should look at. compare -- compare the following. barack obama speaking tough on russia and doing nothing. >> that's not true. >> it is true. >> i understand you want to rewrite the obama policy on russia it is not true. >> can i speak. >> you can, bought when he speaks, that is the policy. >> i misspoke. it is the case. the president calls the ball.