any time up until now. >> when don -- don jr. made as you know that day before the meeting and i think after calls to a blocked number. was that the president? >> here's my question for you, ben. how important is it that clients share all the information with their lawyers? and do you think that is happening here? >> well, so one question is whether it's happening and the other question is whether the lawyer can have confidence that it's happening, whether or not it is. and i think the answer to the second question is clearly not. nobody who interacts with donald trump can possibly be confident that they've been given all the relevant information or that they've been told the truth. when you are -- particularly if you're a lawyer who's going out on television and making representations on behalf of a client, if you're a remotely responsible lawyer, which here is a condition contrary to fact,
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