>> and it's very, very well detailed in here. the question, of course, most thinking people realize that what nick said, there's no reason why michael cohen would have been paying random people. >> what's clear is that, i would actually sort of clarify that in the case of stormy daniels, her allegations that she had engaged in consensual sexual relationship with trump had been percolating prior to the time of her payoff. it was something that had been sort of rearing its head, going back down. so it was something that cohen and trump were both well aware of for sometime prior to the payment to her. prior to the election. and so the question, though, there were these repeated denials. this is a mystery that's been kind of unraveling over the course of a year. at first trump and his representatives said he had absolutely no -- he was not aware of these payments. clearly today that blows their statements out of the water. and so it's remarkable that,