wasn't the president of the united states, they would be indicted at this point. so you know, trump claims to have a get out of skral free card because he claims he's the sitting president. and you know, we can talk about that later. but these are incredibly serious allegations. what michael cohen said on tuesday as you were saying in the setup, chris, was that the president was directly implicated in these payments. it's one thing campaign finance violations, there's any number of ways to try to understand them. but i think here the allegation is very different and that's what the "new york times" op-ed is about. the allegation here is that trump actually conspired, he induced someone else, at least one other person, cohen and maybe more with weisselberg and others, to engage in this kind of cover-up scheme over campaign finance violations. it would be one thing if this happened at any time in our history, but it happened just a couple of weeks before our election. this information was kept from voters. these are very, very serious