as the "atlantic's" natasha bertrand points out, many are experts in organized crime, some with a specific focus on russia. andrew mccabe, former debty director of the fbi who led a task force probing eurasian crime syndicates, lisa page, a former lawyer in the justice department's organized crime division whose cases focused on international money laundering, peter strzok, a former fbi agent who was chief of the bureau's counterespionage section and hunted russian spies in the u.s. all publicly maligned and forced out of their jobs under pressure from the president of the united states. to help understand what bruce ohr learned from christopher steele i'm joined by msnbc intelligence analyst malcolm nance, a former career naval intelligence officer and nbc justice analyst matt miller, former chief spokesperson at the justice department. malcolm, let me start with you. the details about ohr having breakfast with christopher steele is sort of -- goes along with the theory that steele is digging this up and starting to get super panicked about what