today-s there's a tape of donald trump and everything about it is false. i mean, it's just quite obvious. and people should go online and listen to the whole thing. where he's telling a recurring lie throughout the whole thing, which is that no one told him about this interview request and then bob woodward presses him just on one, on lindsey graham. he goes oh, well, okay, lindsey graham told -- and it's kind of a look into the way trump operates with every lie he can get away with he will try. >> it is a really important tape to listen to because what you also hear is as he is nailed on the lie by woodward, very elegantly and politely, the president becomes -- at the beginning he's relatively suave by his standards. he becomes angrier and then ultimately incredibly self-pitying. meanwhile, he summons in kellyanne conway, who's caught in a lie too. and again nailed elegantly and politely. and she has a very different method. first she tries to brazen it out, then she throws other people under the bus. then she finally desperately changes the subject. the thing i find myself thinking about a lot as i review these