that this will be another anita hill-style level of testimony, and so her job will be to lead dr. ford through her testimony, for them to elicit points that they can use to break holes into her credibility without doing it in a way that makes them look like a bunch of old guys sitting around like we saw the last time. >> and, lisa, the rules that chairman grassley has released tonight are obviously trying to make it as easy as possible on brett kavanagh, but also as easy as possible on rachel mitchell. he is making this -- his hope is clearly for the shortest confirmation hearing ever held, limiting the senators to five minutes each on each side. that means 50 minutes total on the democratic side, and no second chance. 55 minutes total on the republican side. and so reducing the number of minutes to something so tight makes this strange job that rachel mitchell has a lot easier.