there, but then i wouldn't get to your book. you write in this book about the back-sliding of the american democracy, gerrymandering, voters suppression, legislative hardball. what can be done? >> i think the biggest thing -- this is something small-d democrats should support as well. people who aren't necessarily aligned with the democratic party. democrats should win elections on the state levels. what they can do is win a burch of governorships in some of these big states, in many of them governors can veto these terrible partisan gerrymandered maps and force a better, fair irmap. i would strongly urge people who care about the future of our democracy, who live in states with contested governors' races to vote. those governors could have a big impact on what the congressional