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mississippi. he wants them to get out and vote for mike espy. is that enough to put him over the top or enough of those white voters in the state of mississippi who will overlook, be willing to overlook some of these stories we've seen from cindy hyde-smith to make the difference? >> it's very important to turn out african-americans. if mike espy wants to win. if he really wants to carry the state. the problem, of course, with that argument is, and it's this idea that african-americans can't be the savior for all these states in the south and florida. people look at black people and look only black people turned out. that's just not true. there are going to be white people who need to vote and look at cindy hyde-smith and say do we want somebody like this to represent our state. she's embracing trump in a way that makes me happy. the fact that the president is

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