side and not further divide the country but find a way to unify us. >> are you talking about the elusive obama-trump voters. >> are those the only wons? >> but to win an election, if we're talking about it in terms of winning an election, it has to be someone with that elusive it factor. >> what about warren's -- she has been pretty popular so far. she is drawing really big crowds. >> i think her video, her dna debacle shows such a lack of common sense that people -- >> i think she offended the far wing of the democratic party, and she hit this issue that she managed to offend the far left