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mortgage fraud and tax fraud and other related financial matters. >> explain to me that decision that he would make them public to keep them sealed. >> if manafort is sentenced to 25 years in prison, which is effectively a life sentence for a 70-year-old man and no pardon, then perhaps there's no reason to move forward and have state taxpayers pay for another trial going forward. the plan is to go forward wi charges regardless but that is still something to be discussed and considered. >> and one, the president can't pardon state crimes which is a thriving part of the thinking. number two there are double jeopardy protections. the charges have to be different, obviously. >> as explained to us, they are different. federal tax crimes are different than the state crimes out lawed

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