>> did kim jong-un -- >> he felt badly about it. i did speak to him about it. he knew the case very well, but he knew it later and some really bad things happened to otto. some really, really bad things. he tells me -- he tells me he didn't know about it. and i will take him at his word. >> more on that this hour. trump had a new crisis brewing when he returned home from vietnam. the "new york times" reported trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law, jared kushner, top security clearance over the objections of intelligence officials and the white house counsel. the "washington post" reported that colton -- kushner and his wife ivanka trump pressured the president to grant kushner the clearance. this year, both trump and his daughter, ivanka, denied he was involved. today white house counselor kellyanne conway was asked about that. >> was the president involved in jared kushner's security clearance process? >> we don't discuss security clearances.