entire life, people who never call the fbi tending to criminals. that's who they hang out with and that's their surrency. so it's really not all that surprising. it's incredibly disappointing but it's not all that surprising because it's really more of the same. >> frank, it is very difficult to imagine anything that we talk about in trump world happening in a previous presidency, but imagine if you will, during your time of service in the fbi, that the president of the united states on a very simple black and white letter of the law matter simply said, publicly emphatically, the fbi director is wrong, what would the fbi director do in any other world other than trump world? >> well if we had normalcy, we would have the director offer to sit down in the oval office and explain the law and the doubter intelligence mission of the bureau but we don't live in normalcy. we might have the an fbi