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imperfect in terms of talking about the vice president and bernie sanders, but at the same time there are significant policy divisions that surfaced and were right at the forefront of the debate last night and i have to think are going to be at the forefront again between these two front running candidates, namely this issue of medicare for all and whether you eliminate private insurance. bernie sanders has really set a bar on that, obviously joe biden has been a big defender of the way things have been laid out under the aca. do you think it's a dangerous place for the democratic party to be to be for eliminating private health insurance? >> i was really struck last night at how positive and constructive most of that debate was. there was a vigorous back and forth about differences in policy views on this exact question the moment that stuck with me the most was john delaney saying i'm the son of a union electrician, i grew up

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