sanders at 10. they're way down. i'm joined by sam stein, and jamal simmonds, who is a democratic strategist. here is a weirdo. they have one guy who can clearly beat trump and they're beating the hell out of him. >> the process of winning the nomination means going after the front-runner, right? even though his numbers are great against trump comparative to other candidates, what are they supposed to do? just let him coast? >> i'm asking. it means new democratic coalition or november doesn't count. we're just here to beat the moderates and then we're going to have a celebration. your thoughts. >> one, the electorate is very different than it was in the old days. >> oh, tell me how. >> well, it's more minority, it's younger, it's more female. and so i think this idea that democrats are going to go and run in -- i'm from michigan. i'm from detroit. we're going run in warren or oakland county with some uaw guy with a lunch pail, you know, we