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issue because you have so many candidates staking out a very pure position on medicare for all and anything seen as not truly pled care for all, you're copping out. but i think that the danger here is to act like the aca is perfect. and is in no need of any improvements. i don't think any democrat would say that that's true even democrats that support the aca. i think that while this is effective, i think he should at least allow there to be an opening to say look, the aca was a giant leap in the right direction but here's what i propose to improve upon it. he is talking about a public option. that was always a necessary piece of the puzzle because it would keep costs down. that's one of the major problems with the current law. >> one of the other things about this comes back to where people think they are. barack obama really did see himself as a bridge builder and essentially a center left figure although the iraq war bun issued him in a way with the base and

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