america. and so we have something unusual here. we have a president, a politician who's talking up, playing up the size and the scope of his ambitions and his programs. we'll see this again today. massive budget by president biden envisions the biggest deficit spending since world war ii. and that's, again, the president saying these are historic times, they take historic measures. and his twist is, he said, we're going to include everybody. so this is a populist appeal, looking down the road, making the case for biden as fdr, biden changing america. >> mike, anything in that opening offer that surprised you? >> yeah, the size, the fact that president biden not pulling back from the ambition of it.