if it was a joke or not. >> it was no joke. sergeant david mocarsky was one of the first out of the door. what do you know that points, sergeant? >> the only thing we knew is they give us a play on the car. it was a red car. >> the sergeant had matt's license plate number and the model of the red car he was driving. >> i get the credit union and i don't see anything. there's no cars. and i'm like, fantastic. as i turn the corner around to the front of the branch, that's when pure panic sets in. now i see all the police cars. >> the kidnappers told matt not to call the police. and now there they were. curtains. he now had two hours and 15 minutes to until that bomb would explode. matt eased into a parking spot. >> i rolled down my window and they're all screaming, get out of the car, get out of the car. >> he gets out of the car. we get out of our cars.