Speaking on Hill TV’s “Rising,” the co-host of the Bad Faith podcast was discussing comments Biden made on student debt relief during a CNN town hall on Tuesday. The president said that he didn’t have the power to cancel up to $50,000 in student loan debt, but was prepared to forgive $10,000 instead. “It’s not true, Joe Biden has the authority to cancel all student loan debt,” Gray said. Gray explained that the government is now deciding that student loans are a “risky behavior” that shouldn’t be rewarded after allowing students to take out debt on the belief that education drives the workforce.