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president biden. >> because there is no reason for me to listen to it in order to make the determinations that i have had to make. >> i don't understand how you can sit before the congressional committee and kind of arbitrate what is indistinguishable from the transcripts if you are not even sure what is on the tapes. >> route garlin says that the tapes are full of hands and arms and also pauses and republicans say that that is exactly why thy want to hear the tapes and compare them to the transcripts. >> harris: of course words on the pace and listening to the cadence and if there's worries in one voice or forgetfulness if there is stress you cannot communicate that with the written word right on the page with no context so that totally makes sense. thank you so much chad very m much. your thoughts? >> pete: on those tapes when the reason there was siting for not going forward and part is the mental acuity of the person being interviewed and that can