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what is next? what kind of audio will we be listening to in ten years�* time? can you make a prediction? i have no idea. i would think it would be a mix of things we have now. there's some narrative podcasts that people like, people doing journalism. i think there'll be a bunch of interviews shows that people will enjoy, and there'll be a loudmouths likejoe rogan out there, too. i'm sure it'll all still be going. maybe somehow, there'll be an nft of ira glass in some way, shape, or form. thank you so much, ira glass forjoining me today. thank you as well to bob nettles, today's studio engineer. the media show will be back at the same time next week. thanks for listening and goodbye. hello there. clear skies are allowing those temperatures to fall away quite sharply as we speak. it means a frosty start to sunday morning. glorious with some early