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and podcasts that many people listen to. so tell me, tell us, what is next? what kind of audio will we be listening to in ten years' time? can you make a prediction? i have no idea. i would think it would be a mix of things we have now. there's some narrative podcasts that people like, people doing journalism. i think there'll be a bunch of interviews shows that people will enjoy, and there'll be a loudmouths likejoe rogan out there, too. i'm sure it'll all still be going. maybe somehow, there'll be an nft of ira glass in some way, shape, or form. thank you so much, ira glass forjoining me today. thank you as well to bob nettles, today's studio engineer. the media show will be back at the same time next week. thanks for listening and goodbye. hello, there. there was a lot of sunshine around first thing on sunday, but it was cold and frosty, and it was quite widespread