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this proof or maybe this example," and so, working with others — you know, the team from hardtalk helped me out and did a very good brief — so, you know, you get these things which you can push back at them. but, yeah, if they're going to keep at it, they're going to keep at it. and in those moments on each side of the interview when you arrive, when you're packing up, both with president asaad, but also gaddafi, as well, can you learn things about how they interact with their colleagues, about how they carry themselves? absolutely. assad is incredibly polite in a sort of old world, courtly way. he'll leap to his feet when you get to the room. he'll break his neck to make sure he's not the first person through the door — "after you" — and then, he always — i've interviewed him a few times — and he always gives you about ten or 15 minutes one—on—one beforehand, you have a little chat. gaddafi, on the other hand, you know, he swept in, the absolute caricature