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your strategic capabilities. but i think number two, anderson, is it really gives a clarion call to the chinese government that we've got to start coordinating better than ever before, that our interests increasingly are aligned in terms of keeping northeast asia viable as a center for economic growth and vibrancy. we have probably soon to be two-thirds of our trade that goes right through the east china sea and across the pacific ocean and northeast asia is soon to be 20% of the world's gdp so aside from the strategic picture, the economics of the region are extremely important going forward. >> i mean, clearly see this as an opportunity to reach out to china but how much impact can china really have on north korea? >> well, my guess, having some experience here, is that they're delivering some pretty hard-hitting messages behind closed doors. they're the only outside source that north korea will listen to.