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>> i have to say i'm really stunned. i -- you know, did speak to him on many occasions and he was a warm guy, you mknow, he was nota great interview because he was sort of reserved, not at all like his charter. but, you know, full of life. i mean, the guy was just a force, a tremendous physical force and really a sapurb talent. it changed television. television changed dramatically because of this and really, i think the center point of dramatic acting shifted from movies to television because of him. i mean, he just changed the way people regard television and actors came to television because they could perform at this level after watching him. >> what was interesting about him? i met him a couple times, he was pretty shy, actually, when you met him in the flesh, very modest, very reserved in many ways as you hinted there in terms of interviews but very,