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runway. >> when witnesses say there was -- eunice behr who was on earlier said her father was on the plane and knew it was coming because it looked like the plane was coming in short and the pilot tried to go back into the air very quickly. many people who fly a lot have had mislandings where they overshoot the runway or come in too short. then you get that jolt where the plane goes back in the air. usually it works out. this one if that is indeed the case did not. >> for whatever reason. again, this is entirely premature to speculate. but they did land substantially short of the runway. and the way jet engines work and aircraft respond even if the pilot had put on extra thrust several seconds before impact it may not have been intact. >> people are asking, have been asking where and we're looking at these pictures now from our affiliate kpix out there. you see the number of people who are on this tarmac now and trying to figure out exactly