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it's what you just said. i can't think of anything that's more relaxing or more ordinary than going to a shopping mall. >> this one, as we know, as she has been reporting, it has touched many of the officials, the foreign minister, who you were quoting earlier, one of her daughter's friends was killed. >> kenyetta had a nephew there. >> and people in cnn have relatives and friends out there. be interesting to know if i can ask nima a question. you heard what the foreign minister said she believed two or three of the gunman are american. do you have independent confirmation of that? we don't quite have it down. we just want to know whether there is evidence of that and how would she know that? >> reporter: well our understanding is they do have eyes in there. we don't want to get into many details. it's an ongoing operation but it's they have access to see some of these people inside the