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>> i think part of it is is president obama, it's sort of incumbent on him as president to remain involved in this. but at the same time, you do know obviously that the real action going on here is on capitol hill as dana will tell you. but i think there's this need for president obama to continue to kind of come out each day to do something each day. we saw lim yesterday in the rose gard garden. >> let's bringing in dana bash from d.c. when you look at how this is going to happen and we were both talking about this earlier, when you saw speaker boehner's spokesman say we're pleased the president finally recognizes that his refusal to negotiate is indefensible, it's unclear why we would be having this meeting if it's not meant to start serious talk. it's kind of like, is that a good way to start this off? >> well, listen, the republican line since last week when president obama met with the iranian president was look, he's