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than what other country do, using resources to get intelligence whether or not that means listening in on other world leaders. >> well, you know, it is an interesting question, suzanne. i think it is possible there are governments around theorld that are not spying on the leaders of 35 different countries as was reported in the guardian newspaper in terms of what the united states is up to. so thereighte some foreign governments around the world that might take issue with what the white house is saying, but what we can also point out is that administration officials are pointing us back to what president obama said on the phone with angela merkel earlier this week. that is he is open to dialogue between the united states and european leader in terms of how to work out some of these issues over these surveillance policies. that is acknowledgement they have some things to work on here. at the same time, yes, are you hearing from white house press secretary jay carney saying wait a minute, all governments do this. i asked him yesterday, is the