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risks undermining support among the american people for a continued effort in afghanistan. that's what really is a major risk here. there are practical risks. there's a risk we won't, in fact, be able as a practical matter be able to do the planning and excuse necessary to have an ongoing presence. >> if it doesn't happen, you're saying we could protect our interests and fight al qaeda even if there were zero troops available in afghanistan. >> the united states has options to it to protect its interests. the united states is capable of doing this. we're going to finish -- >> there were people in government who have been arguing for that option, zero option internally anyway, right? >> i don't want to get -- there's a variety of options being argued for in the government. i haven't in the past and i won't today get into internal discussions, but what i can say quite directly is we'll finish this mission on december 31st, 2014. the afghan government, by the way, other than president karzai, is in favor of this