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>> and if there's one set of parents out there that the interview that says no, i'm not going on give that you new toy, i'm not going on send out that expensive trip. you're going to stay here and faye consequences of your behavior. then this interview has been worth it. and whether that's in a -- >> no disagreement. >> whether it is in those terms or not i don't recollect care. >> you said you suffered from affluenza. tell us about your experience. >> well, may grand father was secretary of defense under dwight d. eisenhower. and prior to that he was president of general motors. and his six children were raised with a great deal of money. my grand father was a great man. did he wonderful thing for the country. but what i noticed when i went back to do my masters degree in psychology in counseling was that the next generation, rather than using the money always for good, oftentimes struggled with using the money in dysfunctional