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people want to do the right thing. i think that's what we can hold on to as we move forward as a country. >> sunny? >> i think it certainly is about implicit bias because the bottom line, anderson, whether or not people want to admit it, whether or not harry wants to admit it, when you look at all of these cases we've been talking about, you hear that michael brown is described as demonic. trayvon martin was so aggressive. he was using the concrete as a weapon. you hear that tamir rice looked like an older kid because he was 5'8" and 190 pounds. guess what? so was my son. you met him, anderson. he's not aggressive. the threat is always the same. that these boys, these men are aggressive and they're demonic and giant and i think there are a lot of great officers but when they go into the field and police in african-american communities, they are more apt to decide that these kids are