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this incident freddie gray's death and the demonstrations that followed that flash point you were talking about, criminal activity on monday really upsaturday a lot of people that we have spoken to and we want to introduce somebody here who was at the rally. joseph originally from new york but call baltimore home the past 15 years? >> that is correct. >> what do you think of what's happened in your new home now over the course of the last week? >> well for one, it's a shame. definitely the a's shame. and it's nothing new. >> what do you mean by that? >> when i talk about freddie gray's death, you know when people talk about his death, i think about all the death by the criminal justice system all the death by the police that's not on film that's not on camera that hasn't been put in the news. >> those families who respect getting the attention so to speak an eric garner mike brown, or in this case a freddie gray? >> and there is a case that has touched my heart more than any case the young man in ohio in the walmart, minding his own business on a cell phone,