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it wasn't some sort of an official residence but a marathon. a marathon would people would be out having fun. we can tell you there is is a heavy police presence here. a dog sniffing the perimeter. boston police department is here. absolutely there are eyes even in the boston harbor of the defense attorneys, i want to tell you, jake did come out. the first ones out of the courtroom. before they came out, though they followed dzhokhar tsarnaev into the back which is where there's a holding cell. where they meet him usually before court begins, and they did have a couple of moments to speak with him. they were the first ones out of the back of this court, and when people asked them what's your reaction, are you going to appeal? they looked very upset and they said nothing. so we have no sense of what their thinking is but they truly believed you saw that in court. you saw it in the passion in which they argued for the jury to spare his life. you really saw ta they believed