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it doesn't happen very often. >> it doesn't happen en? >> no. >> how friendly were you with the correction officers? >> that kind of shocked me when i got to their house, everybody was playing cards and on a first name basis and knowing about their kids and pets and burying their cats and dogs and making portraits of children and stuff like that. >> but the fact that apparently -- and again, this one guard who was in custody, who was in court yesterday said no i had no idea that i was bringing in hamburger meat full of hack saws. he's saying he had no idea but at the same time i'm hearing other reports that there were cabins in the woods where they were ultimately found showing their summer places. >> he knew that he was bringing in hamburger but -- >> he's saying he had no idea this correction officer, right? >> no idea what? >> that he was bringing in