some of the technology that you push forward? >> if people have like an internet resource of some type of encyclopedia scope, i know it upsets everyone, chuck schumer is out there with no guns should be the way they have always been and we have to prevent them from becoming new. >> what is your response to him? >> that's a depressing world when things have to be frozen and managed. and i don't know, i find it profoundly unromantic. >> a lot of people think it's depressing to live in a world where you think about a lot of people who shouldn't have access to handguns being able to readily have the ability to make them from home. >> that might depress them but excites and inspires the mind of my other people. and unfortunately, we have the law on our side. >> this is a big deal. the implications of this can't be ignored. that's why you see so many people beginning to talk about this. and a little about cody wilson, i interviewed him last september because he had a website called