>> he's constructing a story. this is the thing he's done all of his life, he says he's a great builder, really, what he is is a big builder of stories, he's always told stories about himself, stories about the united states, stories about the world at large, everybody's laughing at us. >> people fall for it. >> oh, well, it's a narrative, and he is spellbinding to a lot of folks, but authoritarians and autocrats are his folks. this is someone who fell in love with kim. it's someone who laughs when duterte said, well, reporters are eligible for assassination. he likes this kind of leader and -- did you see him on monday after he came out on to the lawn and said i just spoke with the king. those are words he's wanted to say his whole life. >> i got to ask you, and i hate to talk about this, because there are people who knew him, colleagues, loved ones and it's horrific to