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shown to decrease the level of gun violence in their communities. putting in gardens in vacant lots has been shown to decrease the amount of gun violence in communities. having simple discussions about recognizing if you have an elderly parent or a loved one who is showing signs of depression or dementia and reminding you to lock up that gun safely, that can decrease rates of gun suicide. there are a lot of interventions that we can do way before we get to this horrible moment when we're trying to get police to run into a school to stop it, that can help change the trajectory and bend the curve, the horrible curve we're on. >> it's so interesting to hear you talk about meeting this really early, right, like making sure that children have a place to go, that they feel seen, that they have a community around them, that that can make a big difference along with all the other things being discussed right now. >> that's right. you know, there are folks who are so focused on the mental