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fatigue when it comes to the war in ukraine, the longer it goes on, and so those are all issues that they are going to be facing as they return home. we should note the president zelenskyy himself raising the idea, the question of why finland and sweden are allowed to join nato, ukraine still does not have a clear pathway forward on that front. those are big questions that still are unanswered, jim. >> yeah, kaitlan collins, thanks so much. we're back now with our panel as we await the president. kasie hunt, gloria borger, evan asnos. it strikes me how the security posture in europe has changed. they discuss russia not just as a clear and imminent danger, of course, to ukraine, but to the alliance, to alliance members. i spoke to the estonian prime minister yesterday and she described the possibility of a russian attack on estonia, and that would therefore be an attack on the alliance. this is a very different europe. >> it is a radically different europe from the europe that we were in one year ago. and there is a deep irony in the

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