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low hanging fruit in the open really hit them hard, in the hopes that they will turn on people higher up the chain? . is there any chance giuliani would do that? >> that's possible. with a, do they take the predicate acts, which are other criminal activity and charge them against the organization that is part of the conspiracy. that would be the campaign and all of those who worked with the campaign and they would sweep them all in. now, often because they are much higher penalties on these rico cases. you get people that rudy is very used to doing, squeezing and getting them the help. i do not know if he is willing to do that, but i do not think that he wants to spend his retiring years in a georgia present either. >> we also know that a number of the fake electors have been told that they have been targets. themselves and giuliani's lawyers said to me today, they were all told that they were